Hitler vs Judaism

Rangoon said that he considers it a point for Hitler than Hitler was able to kill 90% of the Jewish population of Europe. See message #3.

i dont think he was, Really i dont think any side "won" WW2 as the allies turned on one another stright away

No one was saying that, Pythonpants. Rangoon7789 seemed to be under the impression that the Nazis won WWII.

i don't understand why an ideology is considered right or wrong simply because it succeeds or loses to another ideology. when people who support an ideology are enjoying the success the majority of them don't ask about what their leaders did to others to be victorious only afterwards when they eventually start losing they start questioning the methods used and feel regret and wonder how they could have been fooled so easily. now about palestine. following ww2 in order to solve the problem of the jews the europeans and jews agreed to establish israel and everyone won except of course the native palestinians and thats what it is. it was a horribe fate and europe and the world should be ashamed.

Then, Rangoon, stop arguing and go get some sleep.

One more time: "modern Nazi groups are extremely marginalized by the stigma inherent in their politics." Notice that the problem is inherent in their politics.

You might find this interesting after you have had some sleep: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1060995.stm

I suspect, Daddyorchips, that the modern state of Israel will eventually suffer a fate similar to the fates of the Frankish crusader states.

i think the answer is that all things can be looked at from multipul viewpoints, yes its bad that so many jews were murderd but why do they then think its ok to take over Palastine because some 2000 yearold books says its theres?

You have been reduced to incoherency.

So you would rather die than be associated with them. In other words, "modern Nazi groups are extremely marginalized by the stigma inherent in their politics."

In this case Wkikpedia is correct and you are, ironically, the living breathing proof.

Are you a Neo-Nazi?

I think it is historically inaccurate to say that Neo-Nazism is "very strong" in Europe. There have been no Nazi governments in fifty years. From Wikipedia: "Current knowledge of neo-Nazi activity indicates that it is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in almost every Western country, as well as international networks. Despite this, modern Nazi groups are extremely marginalized by the stigma inherent in their politics."

From a historical perspective, the Nazis lost the war and were completely discredited.

Hitler died in round 1, Rangoon.